That’s hot… bathwater, that’s.

Within the first episode of her recent podcast I Am Paris, Paris Hilton is, in truth, Paris. Her guest was “someone I do know thoroughly”: her husband, Carter Reum. Hilton has been in the general public eye for roughly perpetually (say hello to 19-year-old Paris’ deb ball look in 2000), and has already written a revealing memoir, but this episode particularly really looks like a Rosetta Stone to actually getting the heiress.

Over the course of the 39-minute episode, the couple repeatedly speak about photographs the audience can’t see, speak about hand-selected items they dropped at the taping (Carter: Matching Christmas onesies for the family memories; Paris: a diamond, because she likes diamonds), and reveal the key to their happiness. Mainly: Baths.

“We never leave the home, we mainly cuddle, kiss, and play with Baby P,” Reum says, referring to their son, Phoenix, whom they welcomed via surrogate in January.

“And bubble baths every night,” Hilton interjects.

“We’re very habitual bubble bath users,” Reum agrees.

There you’ve got it: to seek out bliss, just add water. It’s not clear whether or not they’re within the bubble baths together, or in the event that they’re keeping the spark alive by engaging in the trendy pastime of taking a beat to yourself to get wrinkly and hearken to true crime podcasts. We’re also left at midnight in regards to the highly divisive issue of whether bubble baths actually count as bathing. Like, yes, you’re physically in a shower, but are you truly clean when you finish? Arguably, no. Should you’re scrubbing, what are you going to do, marinate in your individual filth? Should you’re not, you continue to have those bubbles throughout you. You continue to need to shower after, right? A bubble bath isn’t going to clean your hair or your skin, though it would, as mentioned, cleanse your soul. Hot water can even sap hydration from the skin, so we hope Paris and Carter are practicing secure and thorough moisturization post-bath, lest their marital happiness come on the expense of their moisture barriers.

Other things that make the “very basic in that sense” Hilton comfortable, Reum reveals, include “just diamonds and Chanel, or puppies,” in addition to, obviously, meal planning.

“We dance while we’re doing taco Tuesdays, kiss in the bathtub, we help one another on work stuff,” he says. “We support one another.”